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  • Why I’m not Roman Catholic (or Eastern Orthodox)

    The reason I’m not Roman Catholic is really quite simple (although if you want the proof of my reason, it will require some homework on your part): There’s just no way to reconcile Roman Catholic doctrine with Scripture. (The same goes for Eastern Orthodox doctrine, but I’m just going to refer to Roman Catholicism throughout this article so I don’t have to keep mentioning both.)

    You see, Roman Catholicism teaches certain unscriptural things such as never-ending punishment, the immortality of the soul, salvation based on a “free will” choice, that there’s only one Gospel, and that Jesus only started one church, along with many other doctrines which blatantly contradict the Bible. However, if one considers the context of Scripture as a whole, the only possible conclusions one can come to are that there are multiple Gospels and multiple different types of salvation referred to in the Bible, that everyone will experience at least one of these types of salvation by the end of the ages, that the dead known nothing because they’re unconscious (and this included Jesus Christ while He was dead too), and that the type of salvation Paul taught the nations about is not based on any choices we make at all (in fact, “free will” is a logical and scientific impossibility anyway), among various other scriptural truths which contradict Roman Catholic doctrine. The bottom line is that there’s no way for someone who is being honest with the text to conclude otherwise, and if the Bible is indeed the inerrant word of God, then it simply makes it impossible for Roman Catholicism to be true.

    Now, I know that Roman Catholics will claim that I’m misinterpreting the relevant passages (and that even most Protestant Christians will disagree with many of the assertions I made there too), but there’s simply no way to interpret Scripture as a whole in any other way without ignoring the clear meaning of the words in the text. And while I don’t have the time to get into the details which prove these assertions here in this post, I don’t have to, because I already did so a number of years ago in this free, in-depth Bible study: Consistent Soteriology: What The Bible Really Says About Heaven, Hell, Judgement, Death, Evil, Sin, And Salvation

    If you take the time to read that whole article carefully from beginning to end, I can guarantee that you’ll be forced to agree with the above assertions (presuming you believe that Scripture is indeed the inerrant word of God, of course). That might sound presumptuous of me, but so far, of the thousands of people I’ve shared that article with over the years since I wrote it, literally every single person who has gotten back to me telling me they’ve read the whole thing has also told me that they now agree with those assertions themselves too. So if you’re curious why I believe that Roman Catholicism can’t possibly be true (and why I believe most of the doctrines that even most Protestants hold to are equally incorrect), after reading that article, you’ll understand why completely. But if you do read it all and still disagree, I’d love to hear your answers to the questions I ask throughout the article.

  • Why I have reassurance that we believe the truth

    As I assume happens to every true believer at one time or another, I sometimes have occasions where I’ll begin to question whether the doctrines that those of us in the true body of Christ (some of whom are also referred to as “Concordant” believers) hold to are correct, or whether we might just be fooling ourselves into believing lies, especially since so many Christians out there insist that we’re wrong. But over time I’ve come to realize that eventually we just have to accept that we’re right, since literally everybody who disagrees with us refuses to deal with the actual scriptural interpretations and arguments we provide rather than just attacking straw man arguments they think prove us wrong.

    You see, many years ago, I wrote an in-depth, book-length, Bible study going over our interpretations of all the relevant passages in the Bible that I believe prove our core soteriological doctrines (especially with regards to the fact that all humanity will eventually be saved by Christ, as well as the fact that there are different types of salvation referred to in Scripture, and the fact that the dead are truly unconscious, to name just a few of these doctrines) as well as all of the passages that are used to try to defend the opposing doctrines held by most “orthodox,” traditional Christians in order to demonstrate that the latter batch of passages — which, like all passages in the Bible, are passages we ourselves agree 100% with — don’t actually mean what most people assume they do, but rather actually support our core doctrines rather than theirs.

    Since publishing the study, I’ve sent it (or variations of it which contain the same information) to thousands of different Christians, with many of them promising to read it and send me a written refutation of the scriptural interpretations and arguments I made in it (and some of these Christians are the type to do immense amounts of research and then write massive volumes and/or create long YouTube videos about why other theological views they disagree with are incorrect). Well, over the years, I’ve received exactly zero refutations of the study. To be fair, I received a few misguided attempts at refuting the first two or three points I made in it before they gave up, with many others simply sending me links to other articles, videos, or books that they mistakenly believed refuted whichever core doctrine(s) we’d been discussing (or simply quoting a Bible verse or two they assumed proved us wrong, forgetting that we already agree with their “proof texts,” even if we interpret them differently), but had they taken the time to read the whole thing before writing what they did or just sending me random links (as I advised them to do in its introduction), they’d have discovered that every argument they (or the creators of said articles, videos, and books) made was already answered and refuted thoroughly further on in the study (sometimes in the very paragraph which came after the one they stopped reading at, ironically enough).

    What’s also interesting is that a fair number of the Christians I sent it to, many of them highly educated, wrote back saying that they couldn’t make heads nor tails of what I was trying to say, with the term “word salad” tossed at me more than once. At least one of them, who claimed to have read many complicated university textbooks over the years, told me that the sentences in the document were pure gibberish, as though I’d just thrown random words on the page, and that he simply had no idea what I was trying to say in it.

    Why this is interesting is because of the last group of people who got back to me (a group that includes now-former Roman Catholics, evangelicals and other Protestants, and even atheists). You see, quite literally every single Christian who told me they actually read the whole thing through to the end without skipping over any parts of it also told me that they’re now believers in the salvation of all humanity, along with the other soteriologically required doctrines one must hold to in order to be considered a member of the true body of Christ (and that they weren’t before they began reading it), with many of them telling me that not only did it make perfect sense and that it was actually quite easy to understand, but also that they believed anyone who read the whole thing would definitely be convinced that the Bible indeed teaches pretty much all of the core doctrines discussed in the study. In addition, some of them also told me that they normally had a difficult time reading books, and that this was one of the few longer reads they were able to get through with no problem, contrary to the experience of some of the supposedly highly-educated Christians who claimed the study made no sense at all.

    As just one of many such examples:

    The “What the Bible really says…” article Seth is referring to there is one of the variations of my study that I mentioned above, for those who might be wondering.

    And this didn’t just happen once. Instead, it keeps happening over and over again, telling me that there’s a supernaturally-induced blindness being enforced on most people who try to read it, in order to prevent those Christians God doesn’t intend to see the truth right now from reading it and coming to believe Paul’s Gospel (of which the salvation of all, as well as the understanding that the dead are unconscious, are foundational elements), lining up perfectly with what 2 Corinthians 4:3-4 says: “But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”

    This, of course, also reassures me that the scriptural interpretations and arguments laid out in the study are indeed correct, and that God just won’t allow most Christians to read the whole thing because, if they did, they’d certainly come to believe the true Gospel as explained in the study, and they’d then get saved before the time that God intends for them to enjoy salvation. And yes, I realize that this might come across as egotistical, but until a Christian actually is able to confirm to me that they’ve read the whole thing and are not believers in what I consider to be the core doctrines connected with soteriology afterwards, what else am I supposed to make of these facts?

    So if you’re a member of the true body of Christ (not to be confused with members of the Christian religion who mistakenly use our title) and are ever having doubts about the truths we believe, the fact that many otherwise intelligent Christians are incapable of even reading a study discussing the reasons we believe what we do should be all the proof you’ll ever need that you’re on the right track.

    And if you’re instead somebody who disagrees with our doctrines, there’s another reason to keep in mind in addition to what you just read above, which is that I myself tried to refute the very scriptural interpretations and arguments that I included in my study, as I was introduced to them by other members of the body of Christ years ago, and I just couldn’t find any flaws in the actual interpretations that I eventually ended up putting in the study after looking for them and failing to find them (keep in mind the word “actual” there; I’m not referring to the straw men arguments that some people have thrown out in an attempt to pretend to themselves that they’ve refuted our interpretations of Scripture). And I looked very hard, because I wanted to make sure that these doctrines indeed were the truth before accepting them myself. And I’m not the only one. Most “Concordant” believers did the same thing when they were first introduced to our “core doctrines” as well, and also failed to find errors in the arguments that convinced us to interpret Scripture the way we now do. So at the end of the day, as I discussed in this article, if you do disagree with us and want us to change our minds about what we believe, you are going to have show us the flaws in the arguments that neither I nor any other “Concordant” believers have been able to find, which is going to require you to read the whole study, since otherwise you won’t ever know all the arguments and scriptural interpretations that convinced us (and you will have to know and refute all of them if changing our minds is your goal).

  • The necessity of two Gospels

    While it goes without saying that there are at least two Gospels in Scripture (and please read this article if you aren’t aware of this fact already), some people might ask why there are two Gospels in the first place, and why Jesus didn’t preach the same Gospel during His earthly ministry that Paul later preached to the nations. Well, the answer to that question is simply that He couldn’t, because if He had, nobody would be able to get saved (at least not in the manner of salvation that Paul generally referred to, which was being made immortal, and hence sinless, not to mention being justified in the manner that Paul referred to). You see, as we’ve already learned, the Gospel Paul preached is Christ’s death for our sins, burial, and resurrection, and this event is the very basis of our salvation (and is, in fact, the only reason anyone can be saved when it comes to the type of salvation Paul primarily taught about). This means that if Jesus had preached the same message (that His death was going to be for our sins, meaning that His death would be the basis of our salvation) as His Gospel around Israel before He died, the spiritual powers of darkness behind His death would have undoubtedly heard and learned the truth and would not have Him crucified after all (and, in fact, would have done what they could to keep Him from dying, since they don’t want humans being made immortal and sinless). Yes, humans technically killed Jesus, but it was the evil spiritual beings ruling the world behind the scenes during this age who drove them to it, but only because they thought it would put an end to His eventual usurping of their leadership. Little did they realize that they were played, since His death was the main reason He was born in the first place, but that fact was well disguised by His ministry to the Circumcision (in fact, that’s likely a large part of why God had a chosen people in the first place: basically, God plays the long game).

    This is the same reason, by the way, that Jesus didn’t preach the salvation of all humanity during His earthly ministry either. Simply put, Jesus couldn’t have preached the salvation of all humanity, because His death for our sins (and subsequent burial and resurrection) is the basis for the salvation of all humanity, and had He taught the salvation of all humanity publicly during His earthly ministry, the spiritual powers of darkness would have almost certainly put two-and-two together and realized that Him dying for our sins and God raising Him would be the only possible way that all humanity could be made immortal (these are highly intelligent beings, after all), and they would have then avoided their plan to have Him killed, resulting in nobody being saved at all.

  • Will anyone escape death?

    There’s a strange doctrine being taught by certain members of the body of Christ recently which suggests that the Rapture is not something we should actually consider to be our blessed hope, but rather that everyone in the body of Christ will instead definitely die, and I wanted to write a few thoughts about it.

    While this teaching within the body seems to be originating with Clyde Pilkington (whom I consider to be a beloved fellow member of the body of Christ, and who has provided many wonderful teachings over the years prior to this one) — although his son-in-law, Stephen Hill (who has also had some great teachings over the years), seems to be pushing it as well — from what I can gather (although, if I’m mistaken, I hope someone will correct me), he himself appears to have learned it from either the writings of Otis Q. Sellers or of Charles H. Welch (neither of whom believed in the salvation of all humanity, and hence can’t be considered to be members of the body of Christ, since the doctrine of the salvation of all humanity is a foundational element of Paul’s Gospel). And while I normally try to avoid naming names in articles I write about scriptural misinterpretations made by fellow believers, I do have to link to a couple articles written by Clyde in order to cite my sources, which means it would become obvious pretty quickly that I was referring to him anyway, and I’m also linking to other articles correcting the topic which give away their names as well, so I’m making an exception in this case (although the fact that nearly every English-speaking member of the body is aware that Clyde and Stephen are the main two pushing this doctrine among the body of Christ also makes trying to avoid naming names kind of a moot point in this case).

    So what is the basis of this teaching? Well, you can find Clyde’s main arguments in Volume 34, Issues 836 and 837 of the BSN (referring to the Bible Student’s Notebook, which Clyde publishes every week or so, and which often does contain excellent teachings as well), and I’m going to go over his main arguments from those issues in this article to show why the passages he used to defend this new doctrine don’t mean what Clyde and others teaching it assume they do. (I’m not going to cover every paragraph of the two articles he wrote on the topic, but I will cover the main points he makes.)

    The first passage of Scripture he quotes is just in passing (“it is appointed unto men once to die” — Hebrews 9:27), but I should quickly comment on it anyway, because aside from the fact that it’s a Circumcision writing, which means it’s not necessarily to or about the body of Christ anyway, it can’t actually be talking about humans as a whole at all, because that would contradict the rest of Scripture if it was, considering the fact that many people were recorded as being resurrected throughout the Bible who later would have died a second time as well (unless you believe that Lazarus and everyone else raised from the dead are still alive today), not to mention the fact that many people alive today will die a second time as well, in the lake of fire, after they’ve been resurrected from their first death at the Great White Throne Judgement. So whatever this verse is talking about, it can’t mean that humans only die once, thus confirming that pretty much all of the traditional interpretations of the verse are incorrect (including Clyde’s). As for what this verse is talking about, it’s actually a callback to the death of high priests as mentioned in the Hebrew Scriptures (specifically in the book of Numbers and the book of Joshua, as any Israelite reading a book called Hebrews back when it was written should have recognized), based on the context of the rest of the chapter, as well as the existence of the Definite Article before the word “men” in the verse (it’s not as clear in the KJV as it is in certain other translations, but if you look at the original Greek you can see that the writer of Hebrews had to have meant, “And as it is appointed unto the men once to die, but after this the judgment” (similar to the way the Concordant Literal Version puts it, which Clyde should really already know since he uses that translation regularly), referring only to the death of certain men, specifically the high priests of Israel — including Jesus, of course — based on the mention of the high priest in verse 25 of the chapter, as well as all the other references to Jesus’ death throughout the rest of the chapter, not to mention the fact that the death and judgement of any other humans just doesn’t fit the context of the chapter at all). Whenever a high priest died, there was a judgement which resulted in the freedom of certain Israelite sinners, as mentioned in those passages in Numbers and Joshua, and Jesus’ death as high priest resulted in the freedom of even more Israelites.

    As far as his main argument goes, Clyde wrote, “The plain teaching of Scripture is that (1) death is the absence of life, and (2) that it is a sure thing for the offspring of Adam.” As far as point 1 goes, he’s absolutely correct. As every member of the body of Christ knows, the dead are unconscious and gone until their resurrection. But it isn’t point 1 where he goes astray; it’s point 2.

    Following up that statement, Clyde wrote, “The bedrock fact that ‘in Adam ALL die’ is the prerequisite to the glorious truth that ‘even so in Christ shall ALL be made alive’ (1 Corinthians 15:22).” The thing is, Clyde is quoting a figurative translation of 1 Corinthians 15:22 there, using the KJV (the King James Version of the Bible) rather than a more literal translation. And while that’s fine (the KJV is my personal favourite when it comes to Bible translations, and it’s the version I myself primarily quote when teaching, as should be obvious from this website’s URL and title), if one isn’t aware that it’s not a literal translation, and that it needs to be carefully interpreted when using it for Bible study, they can easily go astray when trying to understand it. Of course, the mistake Clyde made there is almost certainly extremely obvious to most members of the body of Christ who are reading this, since most do read more literal translations. But in order to explain where he went wrong to those who might not be sure what I’m talking about, I’m going to quote an edited excerpt of my own writings, which I originally wrote to demonstrate that this passage proves the eventual salvation of all humanity, but which works to correct this particular error as well:


    First of all, he made this clear by writing that just as “in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.” Many Christians assume that Paul was simply referring to being resurrected here (based on the fact that the main point of the first part of this chapter is proving the resurrection of the dead), but we know that everyone who Paul said will be “made alive” includes those who will never die, such as the members of the body of Christ who will still be living at the time they’re caught up together in the air to meet the Lord when He comes for His body, not to mention the members of the Israel of God who will still be alive at the Second Coming and who will remain alive — thanks to the tree of life — until the time they’re finally also made immortal, so being “made alive” (translated from a future-tense variation of ζῳοποιέω/“dzo-op-oy-eh’-o” in the KJV, which is the same Greek word that “quickened” is translated from — and which, yes, literally just means “to give life,” but which is almost exclusively used figuratively in the Bible to refer to our mortal bodies being made immortal) obviously can’t simply be referring to resurrection (which is an entirely different word, translated from the Greek word ἀνάστασις/“an-as’-tas-is” instead) because not everyone Paul said will be “made alive” will actually die and be resurrected (yes, that the dead will be physically resurrected was Paul’s main point in this chapter, but he used his Gospel to prove this point, and in doing so ended up covering details that went far beyond just resurrection, including elements that apply to those who won’t be resurrected — because they’ll never actually drop dead — as well).

    As Paul explains later in the very same chapter, being made immortal is what we’re looking forward to as far as our salvation goes, and that being made immortal is how the death Adam brought us all is ultimately defeated, which also means that any human who is made immortal will then be experiencing the final stage of their own salvation as it pertains to Paul’s Gospel). And all that, combined with the fact that not everyone will end up as a corpse prior to being “made alive,” as we just covered — confirms that the “for as in Adam all die” part of the verse can only be referring to being made mortal, meaning being in a state of slowly dying because of what Adam did — tells us Paul was simply explaining that, for as in Adam all are dying, or mortal (and, of course, that, even so in — meaning “because of” — Christ shall all be quickened/made immortal). The Present Active Indicative tense in the original Greek of the verb translated as “die” in this verse in the KJV also makes this clear, I should add, making “in Adam all die” in the KJV a figurative translation of a Greek phrase which literally means “in Adam all are dying” (meaning all are in a state of mortality and are slowly dying).


    From that, it should be pretty clear now where Clyde’s mistake is. He seems to be assuming that the phrase “all die” in that verse means that everyone will literally drop dead, when all Paul was saying there is that “all are dying,” meaning everyone is mortal and slowly dying. But, as we also know from the same chapter, Paul revealed a secret to his readers (referred to as “a mystery” in the KJV), which is that, while we’re all in the process of slowly dying, not everyone will actually reach the final death state.

    That said, even for those of us who might not physically drop dead, it can still be said that we do all die. In fact, Clyde himself accidentally revealed this fact without realizing it, when he wrote, “Just like Christ our Head, every member of His Body will die. After all, we are not only united in His resurrection, but in His death and burial.” Now, he‘s obviously a little confused in thinking that this means we’ll all literally drop dead in the future ourselves, but he still inadvertently reveals the truth that every member of the body of Christ does experience death, because we all died when Christ died (and this also applies to every human who will have ever lived as well, albeit only proleptically at present). This means that we don’t actually have to experience physical death again (although most members of the body still do die physically, of course), because we already went through it once, when Christ Himself died.

    And while he doesn’t really go into detail on it in these particular articles, he has brought up a related passage in videos and other places, so I should also mention that Genesis 2:17 doesn’t mean every human who will have ever lived will drop dead either, as he seems to believe. While I myself might be somewhat guilty of stretching the meaning of this verse at times in some of my articles as well, in order to prove what death really is, it’s important to remember that we have to keep the intended audience of a statement in mind rather than trying to apply every single verse in the Bible to ourselves. And with that in mind, it’s important to realize that God’s statement to Adam and Eve in that verse was really only entirely applicable to Adam and Eve.

    It’s also important to know what God’s warning, which is rendered figuratively in the KJV as, “for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die,” actually even meant. Remember, the expression “thou shalt surely die” was used in both Genesis 2:17 and in 1 Kings 2:36-46 in the KJV, and yet, based on the amount of time it would take to travel from Jerusalem to Gath and back (even on horseback), there’s no way that Shimei actually died physically the day he crossed the brook Kidron, as Solomon warned he would in 1 Kings. And he certainly didn’t “die spiritually” that day either, as most Christians mistakenly assume the translation of “surely die” in the KJV means (an assumption they make because they recognize that this is obviously a figurative translation, based on the fact that Adam didn’t physically drop dead on the day he sinned), which confirms that the popular “spiritual death” idea is a complete misunderstanding of the term “surely die” in the KJV. As far as Shimei goes, it just meant that he had basically signed his own death warrant and knew that he was “as good as dead” on the day he crossed the forbidden brook. And as far as Adam and Eve go, it literally just meant that, to die, they began dying, meaning they gained mortality leading to eventual physical death on the day they ate the forbidden fruit (which makes sense considering the fact that the Hebrew phraseמוֹת תָּמוּת/“mooth ta’-mooth,” translated as “thou shalt surely die” in both passages in the KJV, literally means “to die you will be dying”; this also tells us that “to die” can’t possibly be a reference to being punished in the lake of fire, by the way, because Adam didn’t end up in that location the day he sinned either, so becoming mortal remains the best interpretation of this warning).

    And while we know from what we learned about 1 Corinthians 15:22 that all humans are indeed mortal (which means the “you will be dying” part of Genesis 2:17 technically ended up applying to us as well), we know from the various other passages we looked at that not everyone will literally drop dead (which means that the “to die” part of the verse technically only applied to Adam and Eve, even if most of humanity will still physically die at some point).

    On top of all that, though, we also have Philippians 1:18-23, where Paul outright states his desire that the Snatching Away occur soon. Of course, most Christians assume Paul’s statement in verse 21 that, for him specifically at that particular time (it’s important to note that this verse isn’t talking about believers in general, but was about Paul’s unenviable circumstances at the time he wrote these words), “to live is Christ, and to die is gain,” means that he believed his death would bring him immediately to be with Christ in heaven, but this ignores the context of the verses before these words, not to mention the verses after them as well, and the context of the surrounding verses make it pretty obvious that the “gain” Paul was referring to there would be a gain to the furtherance of the message he was preaching while in bonds, which his martyrdom would surely accomplish (the idea that the “gain” referred to going to heaven as a ghost is reading one’s presuppositions about the immortality of the soul into the passage, but since the Bible tells us that the dead are unconscious and gone until their physical resurrection, this obviously can’t be the case). I’ll admit, verses 22 and 23 in the KJV aren’t the easiest for people today to understand (17th-century English isn’t something modern people always find easy to grasp), and some people will assume that by, “yet what I shall choose I wot not,” Paul meant he hadn’t yet decided which option he was going to select, as if it was up to him. But whether he lived or died wasn’t actually up to him at all — it was up to the Roman government (at least from a relative perspective, although it was ultimately up to God from an absolute perspective). Literally all Paul was saying there is that he wasn’t going to let it be known whether he’d personally rather continue living as a prisoner in bonds, which seemed to be helping the word to be spread more boldly, or whether he’d prefer to die and let his martyrdom help the cause even more than his state as a prisoner was doing, and that he was pretty much “stuck between a rock and a hard place” either way (which is basically all that “in a strait betwixt two” means in modern day colloquialism), since his only options at that point appeared to be equally undesirable for him as an individual, which is why he then went on to say that he’d prefer a third option over either of the seemingly available two options, which was “having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better,” because if Jesus were to come take the body of Christ up to heaven while Paul was still alive, he wouldn’t have to suffer through either of the two likely options, but would instead get to depart the earth without dying, to “ever be with the Lord” in the heavens in an immortal body, which is a far superior option to living as a prisoner in a mortal body or to being put to death. He couldn’t possibly have been referring to dying and being with Christ in an afterlife when he wrote, “having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ,” since he’d just finished telling his readers that he wasn’t going to say whether he’d rather live or die, and that neither of the two likely options were particularly desirable. Now, some Bible translations make it look like he simply couldn’t decide whether he’d prefer to live or die, but he outright said that his desire was “to depart,” so those translations don’t actually make any sense if “to depart” meant “to die,” telling us it’s simply referring to the Rapture.

    Now, Clyde’s misinterpretation of 1 Corinthians 15:22 was really his main argument, and I trust that you can see it doesn’t mean what he’s assuming it does, but he does try to defend his argument by claiming that verse 51 (“Behold, I show you a mystery; we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed”) doesn’t mean what most of us believe it does, so I need to quickly comment on this as well. He does this by claiming: “First, it is important to realize that, even though this passage discusses a ‘mystery,’ this secret is not associated with Paul’s latter Secret Administration.” You see, Clyde believes in another strange doctrine, sometimes referred to as Acts 28 Ultradispensationalism (not to be confused with the Mid-Acts Hyperdispensationalism that most members of the body of Christ hold to as truth). Basically, while nearly every member of the body of Christ understands that Paul’s Gospel is not the same Gospel as the Gospel of the Kingdom that Jesus and His disciples preached during His earthly ministry, and that we need to divide Paul’s writings from the rest of the Bible as well (in the sense that only Paul was writing to and about the body of Christ, while the rest of the Bible was only to and about Israel), Clyde takes it a step too far and divides Paul’s epistles from themselves as well, believing that there were multiple dispensations, or administrations, associated with Paul’s ministry to the nations, and that we’re now in a “latter, Secret Administration,” with only Colossians and Ephesians applying to us today (with the rest of Paul’s epistles pretty much referring to a previous Administration, and that most of what’s written in those epistles don’t apply to us at all). And while it’s true that not every part of Paul’s earlier epistles are still relevant today, since some of the teachings in those epistles did only apply to the time that Israel still had an opportunity (relatively speaking) to accept Jesus as their Messiah and as the Son of God, in order to bring about the kingdom of heaven for 1,000 years (which has now been delayed until a future time because they didn’t; again, relatively speaking, since we know that, from an absolute perspective, it was actually God who hardened their hearts so they wouldn’t do so, in order that the Secret Dispensation, or Administration, could take place).

    The problem is, the Secret Administration isn’t a dispensation, or administration, which was pushed off until the end of Paul’s life, as the Acts 28 position teaches, but was rather an administration that nearly all of Paul’s teachings were relevant to. However, rather than getting into all the arguments against the Acts 28 position myself, I’m going to instead refer you to a number of excellent articles on the topic by Aaron Welch and Martin Zender, since they’ve already taken the time to do so (some of which also cover the very topic of the Rapture that this article is already discussing, so please read them all carefully — athough I should warn you that the majority of the members of the true body of Christ tend to not view the King James Bible quite as favourably as I do, and as such, they’re not written by King James Bible Believers. Still, these are the best resources on the topic I could find, so I’d still urge you to read them anyway):

  • “The last trump” will indeed be the last trump

    Most members of the body of Christ believe the Rapture will take place prior to the Tribulation, but this brings up the question of how “the last trump” of 1 Corinthians 15:52 can be sounded prior to our mortal bodies being quickened (meaning made immortal), and caught up in the air to meet the Lord before the Tribulation begins when Revelation talks about 7 trumpets which will be sounded during the Tribulation period. Well, I believe the answer to that question is: “The last trump” will indeed be the last trumpet to sound, even though it sounds before the 7 trumpets of Revelation. That, of course, sounds like a contradiction, but only if you aren’t familiar with the concept of the “Mountain Peaks” of Prophecy.

    For those who aren’t familiar with the “Mountain Peaks” aspect of prophecy, it refers to how there can be prophetic “valleys,” meaning events taking place within the same timeframe of a part of a specific prophecy, but which were not explicitly mentioned within said prophecy and which the prophet himself is not necessarily even aware of, yet which are later revealed to us in other prophecies, with these prophetic “valleys” being situated between the prophetic “mountain peaks,” meaning the events that the prophet actually did foresee and foretell within said prophecy; for example, while Jesus’ earthly ministry and reign as King of Israel was foreseen and foretold in various prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures (meaning the books of the Bible that are generally referred to as “the Old Testament”), the church called the body of Christ and the current dispensation of the grace of God were entirely unknown to the prophets recorded in the Hebrew Scriptures — from their perspective, all they could see was one unbroken ministry of a Messiah coming to save and lead Israel during one unbroken period of time on earth, because they couldn’t see the “valley of the church” hidden between the “mountain peaks” of Jesus’ first and second time on earth, with those “mountain peaks” even seeming like one “mountain” to them from their “vantage point” — and this can even happen within a single sentence in a prophecy, as demonstrated in Luke 4:14–21 where Jesus stopped reading Isaiah 61:1–2 before the end of the sentence in verse 2, because the part of that prophecy about “the day of vengeance of our God” hadn’t begun at that time yet, since it won’t happen until around the time of His Second Coming.

    But how does this apply to the last trump? Well, think of 1 Corinthians 15:52 as being perceived from a forward-facing view of a prophetic mountain. If all we read was that one verse, we’d think it’s only going to sound one time. But if we consider it from a “sideways” perspective, similar to the way the above example image is viewed, and read verses 22 through 24 of the chapter, we realize it’s going to sound at least 3 different times: once when the body of Christ is quickened (“Christ the firstfruits”), again when the dead members of the Israel of God are resurrected and quickened at the resurrection of the just (“afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming”) — 75 days after the Tribulation ends (and please compare the numbers in Daniel 12:11-13 to the numbers in Revelation 13:5 to understand the 75 day difference between the end of the Tribulation and the resurrection of the just) — and finally when everyone else is made alive/quickened (“Then cometh the end,“ referring to the final — “end” — group of people to be made alive/quickened, including those who died a second time in the lake of fire), which will take place at the end of the ages.

    So to put it simply, the trumpet referred to as “the last trump” will sound at the time that we, the body of Christ, are resurrected and/or quickened. After that, there will be 7 other trumpets sounding during the Tribulation. Two and a half months after the Tribulation ends, the trumpet referred to as “the last trump” will then sound a second time, resurrecting all dead members of the Israel of God and quickening them. And by the time of the end of the ages, it will have sounded a final time (thus justifying its label as “the last trump”), resurrecting everyone who is left dead in the lake of fire at that time and quickening them also.

    And, of course, we know from what Paul wrote 1 Corinthians 15:51-55 that immortality for humans has to refer to salvation (only those who are finally experiencing salvation physically — in living bodies, with most of them having been resurrected from the dead first — will have “put on immortality,” or will have been made immortal), so when anyone in any of these three groups of people is made immortal, it can then be said, “O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?”, as far as they’re concerned, because death will have been swallowed up in victory for them (which means that the mystery, or secret, that Paul revealed to us for the first time in that passage will also be fulfilled at least three separate times, each time that “last trump” sounds, although I should say that members of the Israel of God who aren’t dead at the time of the resurrection of the just won’t actually be quickened at that point, but will instead remain alive thanks to eating the fruit of the tree of life, at least until that “last trump” does sound its final blast, at the end of the ages, when they too will finally be made truly immortal along with everyone else who isn’t immortal yet, which is how death is finally destroyed).

  • The simplest answer to the question of whether a believer can lose their salvation

    The question is often asked: Can a believer lose their salvation? Now, obviously I’m not referring to general salvation here, meaning the salvation that everyone is guaranteed to eventually experience thanks to Christ’s death for our sins, burial, and resurrection on the third day (the salvation that involves the eventual quickening — meaning immortality — justification, and sinlessness of all humanity by end of the ages). That’s a given, and nothing anyone does can ever exclude them from that type of salvation, because it’s based 100% on what Christ did and 0% on what we do.

    And I’m not referring to the limited sort of salvation that the Israel of God will enjoy for 1,000 years in the kingdom of heaven (meaning Israel during the Millennium) either, which does seem to be something they might be able to lose out on due to certain acts, depending on how one interprets certain passages in the Circumcision writings (meaning the books of the Bible not signed by the apostle Paul).

    Instead, I’m referring to the special salvation that involves becoming a member of the body of Christ, which results in experiencing our justification, quickening, and sinlessness early, before everyone else does, as well as glorification with Christ when He’s manifested, and also potentially getting to rule and reign with Christ (whether or not a member of the body of Christ can lose out on celestial rewards is another topic altogether, though, and I’m not commenting on that right now), and the answer to the question of whether someone who has joined the body of Christ can lose that membership is easily answered by quoting one passage: Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. — Romans 8:30

    There are absolutely no qualifications in that passage other than being predestined beforehand by God, so if God has selected you for membership in the body of Christ, He will call you, and if He calls you, He will justify and glorify you (referring to the justification those in the body of Christ experience early; not the justification that everyone will experience by the end of the ages). Because there are no qualifications on our part in that verse, it means that any passage one comes across which they might think suggests someone who has been called can lose out on membership in the body, and that glorification with Christ when He comes for His body at the Rapture, has to be referring to something else altogether, and that’s really all there is to it.

  • If all you did was quote the Bible, you’ve probably already lost the argument

    A text read out of context is just a pretext for a “proof text.”

    It doesn’t matter what the topic is, if you’re in a disagreement with another Bible believer over a particular doctrine or theological point and literally all you do is quote (or point the person you’re disagreeing with to) a “proof text” or two from Scripture in order to try to prove your viewpoint, in the vast majority of cases you’re not only admitting that you can’t actually support your viewpoint from Scripture at all, but also that you almost certainly haven’t taken the time to properly study the topic thoroughly enough to be able to legitimately have reached a conclusion about it yourself yet.

    Now, this might not be the case 100% of the time, but if the person you’re disagreeing with believes the Bible and has any knowledge about it at all, odds are high that they’re not only already familiar with the passage(s) you’re quoting or referencing, but that they already believe and agree with said passage(s) too. And if they already believe and agree with said passage(s), it means that they’ve already considered said passage(s) — likely in much more depth than you have if all you’ve done is quote said passage(s) — and simply have a different interpretation of said passage(s) than you do.

    So to simply quote something from the Bible which you think proves your viewpoint without also explaining ahead of time why their interpretation(s) of said passage(s) can’t possibly be correct means you’re admitting that you aren’t already familiar with their interpretation(s) of said passage(s) and haven’t already prepared a rebuttal to their interpretation(s), which also means you’re demonstrating that you’ve come to the disagreement entirely unprepared.

    However, that’s not all. If you don’t know their interpretation(s) of whatever “proof text(s)” you might be using to support your viewpoint, it means there’s no way you’ve researched the subject deeply enough yourself yet. And if you haven’t actually considered the passage(s) you’re using to defend your viewpoint from all possible angles — and the fact that the person you’re disagreeing with has a different interpretation of the passage(s) you’re quoting, as they almost certainly do, means there likely is at least one more angle you haven’t considered yet — why should anyone listen to you regarding a topic you haven’t actually studied carefully enough yet?

    Of course, there are cases where you might be wanting to catch the person you’re disagreeing with in a trap in order to demonstrate that they haven’t thought their interpretation(s) of said passage(s) through well enough themselves yet, but in that case you should have at least asked a question or made a remark which you know will lead to the conclusion you’re trying to help them reach. However, in order to do that, you still have to already know why the person you’re disagreeing with believes what they do and what their interpretation is of not only the passage(s) you’re using to defend your viewpoint, but what their interpretation is of the passage(s) they use to defend their viewpoint as well.

    What I’m basically getting at is, if you’re going to get into a theological disagreement with a Bible believer, it’s imperative that you do your homework in order to make sure you’re familiar with all the scriptural reasons they believe what they do ahead of time, including what they already believe your “proof text” means. Because if you don’t, you’ve pretty much already lost the argument.

    The reason I’m even bringing this up is because this happens to me constantly. Nearly every time I discuss soteriology, for example, someone simply quotes or references a Bible passage or two that they think proves their view on the topic, seeming to assume that I’ve never heard of that passage before and that, if I had, I wouldn’t believe what I do, as if I haven’t considered literally every single passage related to the topic of soteriology while writing a more than 500-page, comprehensive study on the topic.

    And for those of you who have already misinterpreted what I’m saying here as insisting one shouldn’t quote the Bible at all, that’s not even close to what I was getting at (although, if that’s how you did interpret the above paragraphs, it doesn’t bode well for your reading comprehension and interpretational abilities in general, including when it comes to Scripture). All I was saying is that you shouldn’t quote the Bible without also explaining why the passage(s) you quoted can’t be interpreted in the manner the person you’re disagreeing with interprets said passage(s).

  • Yes, Calvinism is wrong. However…

    Watching Christians argue over whether Calvinism is right or wrong is both amusing and sad at the same time. Because yes, while Scripture does indeed teach that Calvinism is wrong, it also teaches that Arminianism (not to mention the somewhat similar “Provisionism” perspective) is equally wrong.

    You see, both sides are missing the foundational truth, which is that Christ’s death for our sins, burial, and resurrection on the third day will eventually result in the salvation of all humanity. Because they aren’t aware that this is what the Bible teaches, however, they all end up in a pointless argument with one another. In the end, both sides need to reject their soteriology and embrace a truly scriptural soteriology. Here’s a good starting point: Actual Good News

  • Why I believe in the salvation of all humanity

    The reason I believe in the eventual salvation of all humanity is really quite simple. Many years ago, while I myself was still a believer in the popular doctrine of never-ending punishment for unbelievers, I encountered debates between other Christians who also believed the popular doctrine arguing with a seemingly strange group of people who believed Scripture actually teaches that all humanity will experience salvation because of what Christ accomplished.

    Now, I was already quite familiar with the passages of Scripture typically used to defend the doctrine of never-ending punishment, having grown up learning and teaching them myself, so I found it unlikely that those who believed in the salvation of all humanity could possibly win the arguments. However, after watching them provide not only strong scriptural reasons for their own soteriological position, but also solid arguments demonstrating why the passages used to defend never-ending punishment were actually talking about something entirely different from what I’d always assumed they meant, while also proving that certain words I assumed should be interpreted literally were actually meant to be interpreted figuratively, I was forced to change my mind and accept that all humans indeed will eventually experience salvation, because those who believed the popular doctrine just didn’t seem to be able to counter any of the interpretations and arguments that those who believed in the salvation of all humanity were providing.

    Simply put, I discovered that the only way to conclude the Bible teaches never-ending punishment is to not only ignore the actual context of the passages most people assume are teaching the doctrine (forgetting that a text read out of context is simply a pretext for a “proof text”), but also to ignore all the passages which would then make the Bible contradict itself if these supposed “proof texts” actually did teach never-ending punishment.

    To demonstrate this, I’ve laid out scriptural interpretations of certain passages which I believe prove the eventual salvation of all humanity, as well as explained why I believe every argument for the idea of never-ending punishment I’ve ever encountered, be it a scriptural interpretation, a philosophical argument, or even an emotional attempt to defend their doctrine (and I took the time to research all the arguments for that position I could find before writing this, in case there were any I didn’t already know from my time believing the doctrine, although if I missed any, please let me know), and put them all together in one large Bible study. Thus far, despite many promises to do so over the years by some of the thousands of people to whom I’ve provided links to this information, nobody has sent me a refutation of the study yet (although literally every Bible believer I’m aware of who has actually read the whole study from beginning to end has come to believe in the salvation of all humanity themselves). That said, I welcome any and all attempts to refute the conclusions recorded in this Bible study, because if it somehow was the case that we’re wrong about this, I would definitely want to know (and I’d think you’d also want to show me where we went wrong), so here is the study for your consideration:

    What the Bible really says about heaven, hell, judgement, death, evil, sin, and salvation

    Of course, based on my past experiences, most believers in the popular doctrine who are reading this are thinking of simply quoting one or more of those “proof texts” from the Bible to whoever sent them a link to this page (not realizing that simply quoting Bible verses on their own is not the way to win any scriptural disagreement), rather than taking the time to read the above Bible study to learn why someone might interpret the Bible differently than they do. The problem is, since those of us who have come to believe in the salvation of all humanity already believe and agree with those passages of Scripture (just as we do all passages of Scripture), but simply interpret them differently, if they ever want us to change our minds and believe as they do, they’re going to have to show us where we went wrong in our interpretations of Scripture. Because until they do, we have no reason at all to believe we are incorrect in our interpretations of the passages used to defend both soteriological positions, especially considering the fact that I haven’t been able to locate a single refutation of the arguments made in the above Bible study by anyone, and I’ve looked hard for one, because I wanted to make sure we weren’t mistaken (although, if you disagree, please point me to a refutation that does prove the arguments in this particular study wrong).

  • Not of yourselves

    Pretty much every Christian is familiar with what Ephesians 2:8-9 states: For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

    Somehow, though, most Christians seem to miss what this passage is saying. Before getting into it, however, it’s important to consider a couple other passages. First, Romans 3:10-11As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

    This passage tells us that nobody seeks after God on their own, which means He has to first cause us to seek after Him in order for us to do so. And after we do, we still need the faith to believe in Him, as well as to believe the Gospel. Simply building up the necessary faith to believe something one hadn’t previously believed is true is something nobody is going to naturally do on their own, because if they don’t already believe it’s true, why would they try to build up the necessary faith to believe it in the first place? And so, as Romans 12:3 tells us, we need to be given the necessary measure of faith to be able to believe: For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

    Thus taking us back to Ephesians 2:8-9, which tells us that our faith is not of ourselves, but is rather the gift of God so that no one can boast, and the fact that Paul compared the faith being given as a gift to works means that having to choose to believe would have to be a work (not that faith itself is a work, but having to build up the necessary faith to believe would be).

    Now, most Christians who read this like to insist that it’s the salvation or the grace that Paul is saying isn’t “of ourselves,” but they aren’t thinking things through particularly carefully. First of all, how could saving grace possibly be of ourselves? There isn’t any way that Paul’s readers would have thought he meant that it’s possible to give themselves saving grace, nor is there any way that they’d think the salvation could possibly be out of themselves either, so while it’s technically true that the salvation and grace aren’t out of ourselves either, it should really be clear that Paul was referring to the faith not being of ourselves in that verse.

    Besides, we don’t have anything we didn’t first receive from God anyway, as Paul also told us in 1 Corinthians 4:7, so if we have the faith necessary for the sort of salvation Paul was referring to in Ephesians, we had to have first received it from God regardless. I say “the sort of salvation Paul was referring to in Ephesians,” of course, because there are many different types of salvation referred to in Scripture, and this particular type of salvation isn’t the one that saves us from death and sin, but that’s a topic for another study (although, if you want to learn more about that as well, please read this: What the Bible really says about heaven, hell, judgement, death, and salvation).